Cycling with Purpose: Sara's Story of Philanthropy and Adventure

Speaker 1: 1:13

Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men of Leisure, the podcast for cyclists who understand that riding is not just about getting to the destination, but the experience along the way. Now here are the original Cycling Men of Leisure Adam and Michael.

Speaker 2: 1:31

Hey, buddy, good to see you again. Good to see you too, adam. What you been up to? Getting ready for a little R&R, heading down to Mickey Land and Universal Land with the wife, and then a work conference and packing and all that good stuff, what about?

Speaker 3: 1:46

you.

Speaker 2: 1:46

Going to your house with a mouse. Huh Well, my other house has mice, but that's okay.

Speaker 3: 1:52

Right there with you nowadays Now just school stuff's been going on and running kids here, running kids there, that kind of thing.

Speaker 2: 2:03

Good. Good. Well, you know, you and I started this whole process, this whole idea, and in the middle of Georgia's, where it started, and then it kind of grew some legs under Cycling Men of Leisure, we sort of got called out by a few of our fans and said you know, you should. We got called out alright, you know, even though we were married men and you have a family with kids, people were like this is a chauvinist pig show, and so we decided to change the name to Cycling Men of Leisure it's for Women too. And then last year in Georgia we had a spin off and we actually created Cycling Women of Leisure, and I think today is a perfect time that this show should be dedicated to let everybody know that Cycling Women of Leisure is alive and well as well, and to do that, I think there's no better way than to have a woman on. So I've lined up something today for us, and we have our friend, sarah from Atlanta, and Sarah, we'd like to welcome you to the show.

Speaker 3: 3:10

Hello, hello Welcome, Sarah. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 4: 3:13

My pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3: 3:15

Absolutely.

Speaker 4: 3:16

I'm in fact a woman, you are who cycles.

Speaker 2: 3:20

You do, you do and I felt bad. Recently we gave her a t-shirt and I was honored by the way that you wore it on a bike ride and, trust me, when I told Michael, I said man, I wish we had a Cycling Women of Leisure t-shirt with us, so that would have been more fitting for you.

Speaker 4: 3:36

So next, time I see you, I'll do it, I'll do it, please do, please do.

Speaker 2: 3:41

I would hold me to that, so we'll make that come true for you.

Speaker 3: 3:47

So just let me give some backstory. We actually met Sarah last year in what 2002 in Georgia. Well, 22, but sure you go with that. Yeah, you know what I meant 22.

Speaker 4: 3:59

That's the same yeah.

Speaker 3: 4:02

Yeah, and then we ran into her again in Kentucky last year the Burman Country burn and then we saw her again in Georgia and then we just recently saw her in Kentucky. So we've actually had the opportunity to hang out and ride with Sarah on several occasions.

Speaker 2: 4:16

We sure have, and we got to meet Sarah's mom and all of us oh yeah, and the dog and the dog and the bar that some say was riddled with COVID, but that's not important right now, so I did not come away with that with COVID, but many did, so that's alright. But it was an excellent ride. Had to meet a lot of wonderful people that we've seen many, many trips. So when doing these kinds of events and meeting people, it's amazing that things that people will randomly say that just Michael and I will just tune in on. And Sarah, you said something. I'm going to let you tell your own story, but you said something around the campfire when we were recently in Kentucky and you said, yeah, I rode my back across the country and I built houses at the same time and Michael and I looked at each other and we're like that could be an interesting story, and so we looked at each other and we thought let's be honest.

Speaker 1: 5:18

We're like really, is she joking with us or is she?

Speaker 3: 5:21

being serious. Honestly, sarah, I apologize, we thought it when you said it.

Speaker 4: 5:26

You were actually joking, so I mean it wouldn't be the weirdest thing somebody has said to me?

Speaker 3: 5:36

So, but we found out that she was not joking, in fact.

Speaker 2: 5:40

So tell us a little bit. I mean, you told me I had some questions in, but obviously when you have a podcast, no one was there for our conversation, so it doesn't work very well. First of all, can you tell us what Bike and Build was?

Speaker 4: 5:52

Sure Bike and Build is its own 501c3 organization that raises funds and awareness for affordable housing. They started with one route that went from east to west and the most amount that they had was actually eight Going from east to west. The year I did it was eight and then I went down to five and three and at this point they have essentially dissolved.

Speaker 1: 6:20

Wow.

Speaker 4: 6:20

Which is sad, but we have a Bike and Build alumni group on Facebook and it's fairly active. If I've met some random people in Atlanta, I've written this over comment. When Bike and Build came through Atlanta, I wrote with Stranger bike and build people that I didn't know. I sponsored a bike and builder once. You know, I was kind of his confidant, could ask me questions, advice, etc, etc. And so Me and two, as of now, me and two other bike and builder Alumni's are going to be doing the Fuller Center ride in June of 2024 so?

Speaker 2: 7:06

So for anyone who doesn't know what she's saying is, is she basically Entirely the entire united states, the route that you did? When you, when you did the first time, did you cross the entire?

Speaker 4: 7:17

It was south carolina, santa cruz. However, we did not go straight, which you know, I think a lot of times is a metaphor for my life. So we started in santa cruz Sorry, started in in, uh, charleston and went through georgia, then panhandle, oklahoma, texas which is Awful, by the way, there's not a single tree. It's so hot you get like you're dreading getting a flat tire because it's just nowhere to Nowhere to change it. Then we hit the corner new mexico and started going north.

Speaker 4: 7:53

Okay and at that rate we climbed through the rock east independence paths and then, once we got into california, came down the coast and ended in santa cruz.

Speaker 2: 8:06

So while you were riding, then you would, you would stop at certain towns. I mean, this was my questions to you when we were on the campfire that night. Um, and and Because I was intrigued and I was wondering like did you? I wasn't being insulting when I asked you, but I was wondering if you rode like 60, 70 miles. Then you got in a van and someone brought you back and you you said no, you actually were working on different houses.

Speaker 4: 8:30

Yes, and a lot of the riding was just to get to that next larger city to build. Okay, our longest ride was 116 miles. Wow, you look on my facebook. You'll see a picture of me and a bunch of people and we look very delirious. Um, it's been 12 years and I still have not changed that picture, because I just love it so much.

Speaker 2: 8:53

It's about the one with you and four late you. There's four of you ladies, right, I think?

Speaker 4: 8:56

yeah, I'm like I'm kicking the leg up or something yeah. Yeah, we all have the matching jerseys. So, uh, that was I mean. I barely remember even taking that photo. It's a long day and it's hot and everything.

Speaker 2: 9:09

Yeah.

Speaker 4: 9:10

Um so, yeah, no, it's, it was a life changing, life changing opportunity for me bike and build caps out at 27 years old or 28 years old and you could be a ride leader between 25 and 28. Well, you could be a ride leader really at any time if you were qualified, but it was most Marketed towards young adults. I was 25, turning 26. I was not a ride leader, but I was one of the elders. Um, because you know it essentially caps out in your late 20s and I had, I mean essentially. I can send you an article. Actually, I was an article on the burgundy field newspaper, which is where I'm from in New Jersey. Um, and Basically, my friend sent me the link. She was working at the Sacramento habitat for humanity at the time and a bunch of Bikin builders rolled through. She was like what, what is this? What's going on? This is cool. She looked it up, she sent me the link and I pretty much said when do we leave?

Speaker 2: 10:17

That's uh. That's kind of like my my story of the rag bra, except the opposite. My buddy said hey, what do you think about riding across not Michael? Uh, a mutual friend of ours said what do you think about riding across the state of, uh, iowa? I think you're nuts and I've done it five times, so I think I'm the one but uh, but, um, so that's how some of these things happen. You just never know how you're gonna, what you're gonna do. Um, yeah, I think it's. Go ahead. I'm sorry, I apologize.

Speaker 4: 10:44

No, I was just gonna say this. Something I was thinking about this weekend when I was riding was I kind of compared to getting a tattoo and I don't know either of you have any or no people who have but You're doing it and it's a little bit painful and it's super uncomfortable and you got to breathe through it. Then you want more.

Speaker 2: 11:04

Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 4: 11:06

It's like the nature of cycling.

Speaker 2: 11:07

I feel like sometimes and and I think my comparison would be I don't have tattoos. I know many people that do, but I'd like to say that this year's rag bright was the same way. It was 500 miles across Iowa. Every day was was just grueling hot, lots of miles, and I kept thinking what am I doing out here? But there is no feeling that beats when you get to the end. You got your bike above your head and and you're like okay, I'm ready to do it again. You know so, yeah, okay. So you, how long did it take when you, when you rode that and then you were building and stuff, how much? What kind of timeline did you have to invest?

Speaker 4: 11:44

the entire program was 81 days on the road.

Speaker 2: 11:47

Wow.

Speaker 4: 11:49

Wow, you would have little drop lock drop boxes. You know my mom would send me Little things sometimes. She sent me a cute little dress one time in the mail. She knows wearing the same clothes over and over again. You know some snacks. So I have a severe peanut allergy which you guys know.

Speaker 2: 12:08

Definitely know that.

Speaker 4: 12:09

Yeah, and so that makes cycling of all trips, of all even day rides. It's can be a little bit complicated. I carry a lot of my own food etc, etc.

Speaker 2: 12:21

You have to be careful of brag, like when we do brag and they always have the peanut butter. Do you have to be really like, separate yourself from? Yeah?

Speaker 4: 12:27

So you know, our dear friend Walter he calls it peanut butter time out Put himself away from me, which I, of course I'm like. You know, I can move away, I'm the one with the allergy. He's a good guy, though he's a class and it's just become a thing and, honestly, even we were at spring tune up and he had a friend come over and she was eating I can't even remember what and he was like, oh, oh, you gotta go in time out. She's like what did I do?

Speaker 2: 13:09

I.

Speaker 4: 13:10

The situation levity, even though for me and it's very, you know, high anxiety it's dangerous. You know bike, bike and build. Aside from riding, I lost a ton of weight.

Speaker 2: 13:22

I would imagine being on the road and building houses and being active. I would imagine, though, yeah, but even eating probably appropriately.

Speaker 4: 13:29

Yeah because my diet is a little bit restricted.

Speaker 2: 13:35

But anyway, yeah, it was 81 days on the road and how many days would you say that you were building houses or helping builder?

Speaker 4: 13:46

If I remember correctly, it was like 16 to 18 build days.

Speaker 2: 13:50

Wow, okay.

Speaker 4: 13:52

Seven of those were. It was a blitz filled in Colorado Springs. Okay and so about a week before we got there, the Northern route had come through Colorado Springs and laid the foundation. Okay that sat and settled and then our group came in and Built for seven days with about 40 people Because we were in one location for so long was a good opportunity for some parents and family members to come out and visit that's cool.

Speaker 4: 14:25

So my mom actually came to build. There were a couple other parents that did come to build. My mother is actually still friends with Sandy, and On Facebook, who is the woman who we built the house for, and her son was seven at the time, and so now he's driving.

Speaker 2: 14:48

That's awesome. That's awesome.

Speaker 4: 14:50

So crazy, yeah. So it was just a very, very overwhelming experience.

Speaker 2: 14:57

I could imagine and obviously helping out people who are not as fortunate as others and doing something. Yeah, doing something like that is obviously always makes you feel good and the pit of your soul, and so, yeah, that's, that's really cool. Okay, so you are crazy enough just kidding, I do the same kind of stuff but you're crazy enough to ride your bike 81 miles across the country you're helping build, and then 81 days, 81 days, sorry about that and then, yeah, 81 miles, yeah, right, wish you, you. You lay it down for a little bit, but then obviously you're staying. You're staying connected with some of the alum, and Now you're doing something again.

Speaker 4: 15:40

Yeah, so I put a little post on Facebook with this and basically saying that you know, you get nervous and you start sweating a little bit and you put in your credit card and you're like what am I doing? Like I don't even know if I can, what my job is gonna let me do or if. So, I'm in a contracted position right now that ends this year. So here we go, you know like.

Speaker 4: 16:10

I don't, you know, I if, when I'm interviewing, I'll just be like, hey, I'm doing this thing, um, but if I have to work around a job, then that then, then this is just what's happening, because this is something that I've been wanting to do forever, um, but I would be remiss to not mention that we did actually, unfortunately, lose somebody on that bike and build trip um. She's somebody that I think about quite often when I'm on the road, and so not only am I nervous about how my life or my financial situation will look at, how it will impact taking a week and a half off to go across the country and ride my bike and be back in this environment where I'm raising funds and awareness for people to have homes, but I also had this whole full body rush of like sort of feeling her presence and knowing that, like she would be proud of me, and that I'm getting back out and going back to. You know, this orientation of service that I feel like has been a part of me for so long.

Speaker 2: 17:17

And, forgive me, did we lose her on a bike?

Speaker 4: 17:22

She was hit in Alabama, yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:25

I'm sorry to hear that I really am. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4: 17:28

And unfortunately, she was not the only one. So we have a jersey that has the initials of a few of the riders that we've lost, and I think not to take a total turn in this conversation, but I think, as cyclists, as being on two wheels, I feel like we've probably all known somebody, even if it's remotely adjacent to our lives, that unfortunately had terrible accidents. So, even in these moments where my back's hurting or our butts are on fire or legs are on fire, like, we're still here doing this and, you know, doing it in in a reflection of a way that these, maybe these people can't I would agree.

Speaker 2: 18:15

I mean, and yes, I mean I can speak for myself and I can't speak for Michael. I'm not, We've never actually talked about that, but yes, I do know a few people that have, unfortunately. Oh yeah, we had a terrible thing here happen in Michigan, where they do a wonderful donation raising money, for we had a make, a wish from Traverse City coming down to near Ypsilanti and unfortunately this woman was intoxicated and took out three cyclists recently, and so definitely, and our good friend who we rode across Michigan was right, literally right there, michael Jacob was, was within maybe 10 feet from where the car was, and so really, he just recently got back from court where she was prosecuted and, of course, it seems like every one of these, the punishment was not stiff enough, if you ask me

Speaker 4: 19:11

so it always seems to be a trend.

Speaker 2: 19:15

Yeah so.

Speaker 4: 19:18

Well, now we're going out again.

Speaker 2: 19:20

Yeah, and I don't think you, I think any cyclist who does these on the road rides thinks about that. I mean, you know all kinds of crazy stories that we could have, and that's the one thing about I will tell you, about Bourbon Country, burn is I felt. I felt this year was the only, I mean, of the two years I did this year. There was a couple of times that got really scary. There were cars really close. Now one guy had a lock up, if you remember, michael, and and I kind of got scared and so you can have all the safety devices and radars and computers and lights and everything.

Speaker 4: 19:56

Yeah, I mean, I got hit three blocks from my house in a bike lane.

Speaker 2: 20:00

Wow, yeah, that's. I just think friends of cyclists will go all the way around you and people who hate cyclists will go right next to you, so you can you can always tell.

Speaker 2: 20:10

You can always tell yeah, well. So you've decided to go back and, and, and a part of me says good, I'm glad you are, because you wouldn't want that to be your legacy, to say I'm not going to do that anymore. You're almost writing an honor of those that we've lost as well. As far as I'm concerned, yeah, so the total route of the ride that you're doing, first of all, the ride that you're doing is is that the Fuller Center Bike Adventure? Is that what it's called? Yes, and so the route is separated by different pieces and you've decided to do the first hand of the route.

Speaker 4: 20:49

Yes, yeah, we'll be Moab Salt Lake City.

Speaker 2: 20:55

Cool.

Speaker 4: 20:55

And another bike and builder from my route from SC to SC, which was South Carolina, santa Cruz. Her name is Sierra. She is joining me as well.

Speaker 2: 21:05

Cool.

Speaker 4: 21:06

And we've been chatting about it, and I haven't seen her in 12 years, and so it'll be a nice little reunion as well.

Speaker 2: 21:14

We are definitely going to have to get you cycling women of leisure t-shirts for your trip.

Speaker 2: 21:20

So we're also going to be in the show notes of this show. We're going to be sharing your fundraising link, and so if you are inspired by what Sarah is doing and Sierra and some of their friends, we will put the link here for your. You are a quarter way there to your goal. That doesn't mean that has to stop there. Of course we can. We can push the followers, listeners and a lot of our friends that we've all know together listen to this show, and so guys, ladies, go donate, Give us a hand, Make a little donation here.

Speaker 4: 21:57

Thank you, everybody, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 21:59

Absolutely Okay. So the route that you've decided to do um estimated mileage is I think you said 261.

Speaker 3: 22:11

261 is what she said 261.

Speaker 2: 22:14

Yeah, that is, that is. So if someone were to do the whole thing and they wanted to do it, you said it crosses four states.

Speaker 4: 22:22

When we were talking to you earlier, I think it says four states and 1300 miles. That's in. That's in four weeks.

Speaker 3: 22:31

See it ends in Columbia Falls Montana.

Speaker 2: 22:34

Okay, so we've got a ride coming up, and what time of year is this? I'm so sorry, I did not know that.

Speaker 4: 22:41

It's Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 2: 22:43

Memorial Day weekend and people can still sign up for this.

Speaker 4: 22:46

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:47

Oh yeah, well, that's, that's kind of interesting. So, um, you have used the photograph, uh, when you were in Paris, kentucky. I have been to that Eiffel Tower there, so, um, that is a famous spot for me and my crew.

Speaker 3: 23:02

I know it is Usually, you know that's the location that won our friend and you and I Adam.

Speaker 2: 23:10

Actually no-transcript, armando from yes two years ago he was overseas.

Speaker 3: 23:18

Recalled him from that location to say, hey, we're in, we're in Paris.

Speaker 2: 23:22

He wasn't there yeah exactly he was there this year. So yes, unfortunately we didn't get to see one. I think one was actually overseas, so I don't know if I have that right. I thought he was overseas, so he missed remember had it.

Speaker 3: 23:39

He was in Portugal or somewhere, so who knows?

Speaker 2: 23:42

Well, he obviously wasn't with us.

Speaker 4: 23:44

He comes to miles in the buses.

Speaker 2: 23:46

Well, you had mentioned the comet trail and one had taken me on the comet trail, so that was kind of cool. I thought it was neat that there was a restaurant halfway through. We stopped and add a little sandwich. Guy yeah, that was, that was. I mean, that's beautiful trail system right there. So yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:05

The other thing I wanted to bring up is that that you're riding what they call the Wild West segment, or a route. They actually have four other routes that people could choose from to if they didn't want to just Go into Idaho and Montana and Utah.

Speaker 4: 24:23

So Natchez trail.

Speaker 3: 24:26

There's, yep, there's one down in Florida, tour to Florida. There's actually also one on the you mentioned the silver comet. They do the silver comet trail. So that's. There's some other options if people are interested, or you can just do the big one which is Seattle to DC.

Speaker 4: 24:45

Yeah, and the silver comet one is only like a week long or nine days. So if people are not trying to commit to, you know going all across the country or you know taking a month off from their jobs and there's definitely local options as well local and shorter, so forgive me, on the silver comet trail just in case someone's listening this and they were interested in that.

Speaker 2: 25:07

We actually met two ladies who had a full set of gear and they said they were going all the way. I only was there as a guest of one. How far does the silver comet go? Does it go into multiple states?

Speaker 4: 25:19

It goes to Alabama, it goes to Aniston oh wow, okay, I've done an out-and-back where we went all the way out to Aniston and slept like an at a bed and breakfast and then came back. Now there is a campground at mile 34 and Atlanta cycling festival actually Walter was just there this weekend. Atlanta cycling festival does an out-and-back camping trip where they get you go out to mile 34 and you camp and they have food and beer and everything, and then the morning you come back.

Speaker 2: 25:56

That sounds right up our alley beer and relaxation and it's so good fire. And they did yoga one year.

Speaker 4: 26:05

Two years in a row at Ford rain, which was like even more fun somehow, and everyone just was, like you know, smelled like smoke when we got home because fire was burning. We were drying all of our drop, all of our wet clothes over the fire. I think I, I think I, I think I washed my jacket like six times and it still smelled like smoke.

Speaker 2: 26:26

Yeah, remember back in the old days when you could still smoke in restaurants. We'd go out and have a sports jacket or something because I went to military school. You come back, you'd hang in the garage. You could hang another garage for weeks it would still smell like smoke.

Speaker 4: 26:38

Yeah, thank god, this was fire, so good, yeah, a lot different.

Speaker 2: 26:44

Now I have a million dollar question for you. This is Memorial Day weekend and we have Written with you in the great state of Georgia and we are considering coming back to Georgia for big brag. My question is is that this big ride is happy Memorial Day weekend? What are the chances that we would see you at big brag?

Speaker 4: 27:06

What are the days for big brag?

Speaker 2: 27:09

I knew you were gonna ask me that. I think it's a second through the ninth. I should have been prepared.

Speaker 4: 27:14

Oh, so this is the the 31st to June 9th, and then you want to talk about crazy. I'm actually going on a grecian Turkish cruise with my family and I leave June 11th.

Speaker 2: 27:34

I'm gonna say the chances of us seeing you, because big brag they're stating on the website is June 1st through 8th, 2024, uh and so I think that's gonna be a big freeze.

Speaker 4: 27:45

I definitely want to see you.

Speaker 2: 27:47

Yeah, nope, but that's all right. So, uh, we're, we're, we're thinking about it, thinking about bringing Humphries spring tuna. Yeah, you know I I've been receiving thought about it. Yeah, we've gotten messages behind the scenes, but it's like for me it's a 12 hour drive. What is it for you, michael? I think it's like 15. Yeah, so it's like if we drive because we can't. Yeah that's a pretty decent drive for a three day and, by the way it was, even though it rained, it was still fun to see everybody.

Speaker 4: 28:18

Oh fun. It was definitely good time. It's always good.

Speaker 2: 28:22

Definitely. I mean he puts on a. I mean doesn't hurt that. He used to put on music. You know events and stuff. So he definitely does a great job and some, um, he being Franklin, if anyone is interested in the in the brag organization, they do a phenomenal job. So, um Well, I, I, uh, I appreciate you coming on with us, michael. What have I missed?

Speaker 3: 28:43

I know I've missed a few things, so Uh, no, I think you've about, I think you've got you touched on most everything. We just found it fascinating when you brought that up, that you had Cycled and built and built homes and things of that nature. Um, and it's interesting to to actually go in and look about your new adventure here and see all the different options. So, um, no, I don't think I have anything else, but it's, it's been fantastic Finding out about these new rides. That's one of the things that we're always interested in and uh, and seeing and hearing about Is is different rides that we had no idea even existed. We've been doing this for years. Never heard of these rides before, so it's always awesome to Hear new rides and you know, you never know, we might get ambitious one of these days. And, yeah, you know, ride do a little building.

Speaker 4: 29:30

I appreciate you guys, because sometimes I feel like it was so long ago that it's nice to bring it back to life and Talk about it. It was, you know, right after I was done it was. Everyone was like what are you serious? You're crazy, what do you mean? What are you talking about? Then, you know, it sort of becomes old news. So yeah, I would agree. I mean.

Speaker 2: 29:52

Yeah, to be honest, the same thing for me. With rag bright in the back of my office at my and where I work, I've got a map, georgia and these push pins of every like overnight town that we've done, both the big brags and spring tune up, and then I also have Iowa and all the towns that we stayed over and I call it like at my command center. It's just fun something to do that look at school.

Speaker 2: 30:12

Every time I have a zoom, meeting people like why is there a map of Iowa behind you? And when you tell people like you, who wrote across the country which is a lot further than Iowa, by the way but when you tell people, oh yeah, I've ridden my bike across the state of Iowa, it's the different reactions that you get is really interesting. Some people are like you're nuts, or you're crazy, or does your butt hurt?

Speaker 3: 30:33

or I'm like well, actually is a it did, or it's like well, it's flat, isn't it?

Speaker 2: 30:40

Yeah, oh yeah, everyone always.

Speaker 3: 30:41

I was.

Speaker 2: 30:42

Everybody assumes that and so I think the same thing for me were. You know, the first year I came home and I told my wife I'm like I don't ever have to do that again, that's something I won't do. And two years later, there we were called me two years later.

Speaker 3: 30:54

It's like, hey, let's go ride Iowa again.

Speaker 2: 30:57

I Must have been, I must have hit with the funny gas or something.

Speaker 4: 31:02

But Did you get another tattoo?

Speaker 2: 31:04

That's right. Exactly the same thing. If Ragnarise tattoo, I do have big posters. Is that count? No, just kidding. Well, we are definitely gonna share your link if anyone is interested in the Fuller Center bike adventure. The website that they have is my Dot Fuller Center bike adventure dot org. But we are actually gonna share your personal Fundraising link in the show notes, so please go click on it. Don't stop what you're doing. Go right to the show notes right now. Click on it. Make a donation for Sarah. Sarah is one of our, our friends that we were proud to call your friend, sarah, so help Sarah out. Well, the only other thing I would say is Michael well, what is today, sarah?

Speaker 4: 31:53

It's a great day for a bike ride.

Speaker 1: 31:55

Absolutely yes it is awesome. Thank you for coming along with Adam and Michael on road adventures with cycling men of leisure. If you have enjoyed this, please subscribe to the show on the podcast app of your choice.