Road Adventures of Cycling Men of Leisure
Adam and Michael’s friendship is built on a shared love of cycling. From tough trails to leisurely rides, their adventures are filled with stories, banter, and authentic connection. Their podcast blends entertaining anecdotes, heartfelt conversations, and cycling excitement—welcoming you into their community and the joy of the open road.
Road Adventures of Cycling Men of Leisure
We Reveal A New Ride Director, Launch A Listener Contest, And Give you a chance to win a one of kind Jersey
A new chapter for BRAG starts here. We’re welcoming Domestic Ride Director Ron Ward to the family, spotlighting how he went from rider to crew to the person orchestrating the weeklong road adventure so many of us call summer camp on wheels. Franklin Johnson shares why international tours are accelerating, what growth means for the classic Georgia road experience, and how the team keeps rider joy at the center while scaling up.
You’ll hear the stories that make BRAG feel like home: chasing siblings across the state on mismatched bikes, spotting decade-old route arrows on backroads, and the unsung heroes who keep the ship steady—especially Stephanie, the glue behind the scenes. We talk real-world logistics, from rest stop strategy to layover day riding, and poke fun at hills that humble even the strongest legs. It’s the blend of humor, community, and care that turns a line on a map into a lifetime memory.
And because speculation is half the fun, we’re launching a listener-powered challenge: guess the 2026 Big BRAG route. Submit six towns in order, score 10 points for a correct town on the correct day, 5 for a correct town on the wrong day, and 20 if you nail the layover town. Share a screenshot showing you follow our podcast or YouTube for a 10-point head start. If there’s a tie, we’ll draw live. The prize is a one-of-one, co-branded winner’s jersey made in your size—the kind of trophy you can wear with pride.
Come for the ride stories, stay for the friendly competition, and get ready for our upcoming route reveal show with fresh trivia. If this conversation made you smile or start plotting towns, follow, subscribe, and leave a quick review. It helps more riders find the road—and the community waiting around the next corner.
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Well, it's time for Road Adventures with Cycling Men of Leisure, the podcast for cyclists who understand that riding is not just about getting to the destination, but the experience along the way. Now, here are the original cycling men of leisure, Adam and Michael.
SPEAKER_03:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Road Adventures with Cycling Men of Leisure for a special episode. Hey Michael, how you been?
SPEAKER_00:I have been good. Things are going well. Not thrilled about the snow, but you know what? This episode, we're going to talk about things that are not happening in the wintertime.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that is for sure. That is for sure. We're going to talk about a beautiful place that I love to go to, been many a times. Hopefully, one day get to go back, right? I hope so. I hope so too. So let's go ahead and bring our special guests on. Ladies and gentlemen, we consider this gentleman a friend of the show. He's been on many a times. Please welcome Mr. Franklin Johnson. Franklin, welcome.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, happy to be here. Thanks for having me yet again.
SPEAKER_03:Yet always happy to have you, Franklin. Man, one of our best listen shows to this day still includes Mr. Franklin Johnson. So we we we feel we feel very honored. But more than that, we have another special guest. Ladies and gentlemen, the new domestic ride director for Bragg, Mr. Ron Ward, is also joining us. Welcome.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you. I appreciate it. Longtime listener, first time caller.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. I'm a Howard listener too. I love it. So I can I can get back on there. Well, welcome, Ron. Happy to have you on the show. Thank you. I appreciate it. So normally we talk about the executive ride director of Bragg. I mean, there he is, the man, the myth, the legend. Sometimes we call him all kinds of things. Not derogatory, but friend or executive director.
SPEAKER_00:But now Adam, there was that one time you put us on a mountain route. Remember that? And I think we were using a few words that may have been a little derogatory.
SPEAKER_03:You mean the one I had to be honest. They mean the one I was walking.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that one. I'm sure it was called to many things that day, and none of them were kind.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Not only by you guys, but the rest of the ridership as well.
SPEAKER_03:I did hear a couple of what the hell was Franklin thinking? But on a more positive note. I assume with the domestic ride director title, that means Bragg is growing and your international trips are going well.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so international trips started going uh really well. And I, you know, been doing uh at the helm of Bragg for over 10 years now and wanted to continue to grow and scale, and I think in a in an effort to do that, need some assistance. And um so I think it's you know it's two-prong. It's you know, A, to give me time to focus on a lot of the international stuff. It's definitely still gonna be here and involved um uh in Brag moving forward and you know, still gonna be at all the events. And as you said, Adam, uh shaking hands and kissing babies. So I'll still be still be there doing that, uh, so not going anywhere. Uh, but definitely want to focus a lot of my time on a lot of the overseas rides because those are those are growing so quickly. Um and also want to give somebody who has you know done the rides before and has some you know experience in the cycling community and uh bring some fresh energy and excitement into the role. And Ron actually I'll let him tell his story, but we had some really good experiences with Ron and decided to bring him over to head up over all the rides that are taking place uh here in the United States.
SPEAKER_03:And I know that uh not being repetitive, I I mean I I love your brag and rights newsletter, and you did put it on Facebook, but some people are not social media, and some people are not people who read on a newsletter on a regular basis. And so, Ron, uh, would you tell us a little bit about yourself for those who get all their Brag news on podcasts? Can I have an introduction?
SPEAKER_01:Or well, sure. As uh Franklin said, uh I've got a little bit of experience with uh the Bragg family. I actually had the opportunity back in the early 90s to go on the the ride from Rome, Georgia down to America, I think it was, through Columbus. It was a funny story. I had a mountain bike that I used to commute around Athens where I was in school, and it was you know fitted out with nothing special, didn't even have toe clips. And my brother had his uh his you know narrow race bike, you know, straight out of breaking away. And uh anyway, I just spent the entire week trying to catch up, and I would just go barreling down hills after him, and then by the time I would catch up to him at a rest stop, you know, he'd be full up and ready to go, and I'd have to stop and but it was fun. We're still, you know, we we still ride together and and and have a good time. So it was a lot of fun. That was a great experience, really enjoyed it. So that was sort of my first foray into the Brag world, and I've ridden a lot across uh the state and in my region in small groups. Did uh got into gravel riding back in late 23, and so I got a gravel bike, and in the region where I live, we have a pretty pretty extensive rails to trails uh project uh around that you can it's a network of trails that includes all kinds. Mostly paved, but there's some opportunity for a little gravel, so that's a lot of fun, and I I do some uh bike packing and that sort of thing. And I was gonna do the big brag in 24. I had some scheduling issues, but I was kind of going back and forth on it. I was gonna go by myself because I I didn't have my brother wasn't gonna go with me, and I didn't have anybody else. And I saw the um the the link for volunteering or paid gigs that Franklin had out on the website, and I sent him a text, or I or maybe he sent me a text after he read my volunteer form. And so I ended up going on the ride as as you know, hired hired hand there for the logistics group and just fell in love with it. I mean, I had a great time. Uh and it's it's a lot of work, but it's it's really rewarding. I love being outside. Um and ever since then, Franklin and I kind of kept in touch. You know, I go off and do other stuff, and you know, we cross each other's paths on email or whatever, and so here I am. Um it's a great decision. I've loved every second. I'm learning a lot. There's a lot still yet to learn, but uh I I appreciate the tight-knit cycling community. It's a diverse group, but with one goal, and that's to have fun on two wheels and keep the rubber side down, and that's uh that's a great way to approach life.
SPEAKER_03:For sure, for sure. Especially uh don't don't run over garden hoses, right, buddy?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I heard I heard that story on really the rule the the whole point of the thing is don't put garden hoses out in the road. That's my point.
SPEAKER_03:So I'm sorry.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, listen, it wouldn't be a regular episode for you and I if we weren't riveting each other. So that's true. That's true. Well, Ron, I I I welcome you. I was introduced to Bragg in the middle of Iowa. I saw the big red tent, and and Michael and I were looking for rides to do, and we decided uh Brag was for us, and it was just, you know, I don't want to steal Franklin's word, but it was almost like summer camp, and and the the community in Georgia that's opened their arms to not only myself but Michael, but you know, cycling men of leisure and and you know the entire team. We had 43 team members last year in Bragg. It was just amazing. And and just the camaraderie and the welcomeness that when we come to Georgia, every time I'm from Michigan, for those who don't know, if you are a new listener, because I think this is gonna get shared to people who probably haven't listened to you and I before, Michael. And I love flying into Atlanta and then usually either catch in a commuter somewhere else or a bus, and and Georgia's just absolutely beautiful. So I I think you probably took a job that you're gonna have a love relationship with, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_02:So we haven't run them off just yet, so that's good.
SPEAKER_03:Well, that's good. That's good. I say yeah, I was gonna say I say the same thing about people I hire all the time. Well, they're still here, so they must like it somewhat. So I keep showing up. I have to tell you something funny, Ron. So we were lucky enough to see Stephanie in the middle of Kentucky. Michael and I decided to go down and do the bourbon country burn, and we met Stephanie and her partner, and and we were in a bar and and a brewery, not a bar, brewery. And I said, uh, how's the hunt for for a director? And and she said, We got one. You start September 20th. And she couldn't tell me fast enough that that she knew the day and when you're starting. And I said, I'm excited about that. And she did not hold hesitate one bit. She said, Yes, I am. So I asked her if I could share that story. So she said that was fine.
SPEAKER_01:If any of your listeners have ever met Stephanie, she is a big part of the heart of the Bragg program, and that means staff volunteers and participants. She is she is right there in the thick of it. I mean, uh the the ship sinks without her, so she's she's a a real plus.
SPEAKER_00:We often said she's the one doing all the heavy lifting, so without a doubt.
SPEAKER_03:We've tried to get her on the show, and I'll tell you of all the wonderful things I will say about Stephanie. Plus plus, A plus, A plus, A plus. I won't say anything negative, but she has declined to be on the show. She said that's just not her show.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I don't know if that's her back. She she's great at many things, but I don't know if she can take the abuse from you guys, you know?
SPEAKER_03:We would never treat her in a derogatory manner.
SPEAKER_00:No. Gotta know your place, Franklin. I mean, really. That's true. That's true. Gotta know where you fit in.
SPEAKER_03:Well, behind the scenes, being transparent, the four of us had an idea to kick off the new domestic ride director for Bragg with something exciting. Franklin, you and your team historically put out the brand new 2026 Big Brag route at midnight on New Year's Eve. Many times, Michael can tell you that I've stayed up and waited to watch this video on YouTube. Um, you've been gracious enough for us for the last couple of years. We record about a week early, and then we we uh are sworn to secrecy. We signed the documents and our lawyers send it back. Well, that's not true, but and then we put out our show uh in noon that day. And we thought the four of us, with this new kickoff and the family of Bragg growing, that we would have a contest. And a contest would be a guess the route for Big Brag 2026. Uh, the the route that's gonna be released at New Year's Eve on midnight. What do you think? All right.
SPEAKER_02:Everybody always typically does it, you know, impromptu on Facebook. Everybody will put their guesses out there, but this will be a good way to culminate and put all the guesses in one spot. And I hear there's a prize. There is a prize.
SPEAKER_03:Nico, you want to you want to talk about this?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, so when we were thinking about this, we thought we need some cool prize that you know, and we didn't want to do just, oh, here's a sticker pack or here's a hat or here's a shirt. So what we came up with is whoever the winner is, we are going to design a special jersey. Their size. Uh, it's gonna hopefully be co-branded with with Brag and with uh you know, Road Adventures of Cycling Men of Leisure, and it is going to be the winner's jersey, and there'll just be one of these ever produced, and whoever wins can wear that with pride that they were the person that guessed the the 2026 Bragg Route.
SPEAKER_03:So and how are they going to enter this, sir?
SPEAKER_00:Uh well, as far as entering it, what you're gonna want to do is you'll want to go to our social media, um which you can find all over our pages, and we'll be putting it out on Facebook and all that just to make sure you can find it. And you will want to put down your six guesses. And uh I know it's a seven-day ride or seven-night ride, but we do have that Wednesday, which is you know the layover day. You'll put down your six guesses in the order that you think they're gonna hit and send that to us. And then what we're gonna do is we're gonna do a scoring system. We will give anybody who guesses the right town and the right day, they get 10 points. If you guess a right town and it's not on the right day, we'll give you five points because you got one right. Uh, if you guess the correct town on Tuesday, we're gonna give you 20 points because it's a layover day. You get double points. We thought that was fair. The other thing we're gonna do is if you will take a screenshot um showing that you're following us on uh, you know, YouTube or our podcast, whatever podcast uh versions you use, or you're following us on some type of social media, if you'll take a screenshot of that and send that to us, we'll start you off with 10 points right off the right off the start line. So that's how we're gonna do it. We're gonna culminate all those up. We'll keep a tally of all the the points, be it zero or what, eighty points. And then whoever gets the most points is gonna be a winner. Now I know everybody's saying what happens if multiple people guess correctly.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, Michael, yeah, what are we gonna do if multiple people guess correctly?
SPEAKER_00:I knew people were thinking and we're gonna ask that. So thank you, Adam. It's a good question. What we're gonna do is on a live you know podcast, we will put all the names of the people who guess correctly onto chips. We'll put them in a hat. We will have a non-biased third party, probably maybe Stephanie. Maybe Stephanie will fly up to Michigan in the wintertime, Stephanie, and you can pull it out.
SPEAKER_03:We could get some tokens. We could we could, we could.
SPEAKER_00:Someone will uh put them all in a hat, pull it out, and whoever uh name is drawn is the winner and gets that jersey.
SPEAKER_02:So if you guys give me one second, I'm actually gonna go to your socials and then to your website, and I'm gonna submit my entries now just because that jersey sounds so cool. Okay, all right.
SPEAKER_00:And actually, uh yeah, if you go out to our it'll be our website and it's private right now.
SPEAKER_03:But uh the minute this is done recording, I'll hit on private.
SPEAKER_00:So there will be a page there that actually has a uh actual submission form. And you can just put that in there and send it to us. It'll be great. Super easy.
SPEAKER_02:All right. Well, hopefully it's not just me and Ron that are uh our our chips are in the hat there to get pulled out. Well, you guys can fight over the one jersey.
SPEAKER_00:Uh hey, Ron doesn't need a jersey because he's a ride director and he ain't gonna be riding. So however, my big question is, Franklin, are you gonna ride? Because now you have a little more free time.
SPEAKER_02:That's true. I don't want to call it free time. I'm sure um I forgot the name of the theory, but there's a theory that um the stuff you have to do expands to fill the amount of time you have to do it. So I frequently find that's always the case on these rides. So we'll see how that goes. I have a couple years I have ridden um one year we're in Millageville, one year we're in Deloniga. I rode on a layover day, so I'll definitely try and do that. But I find too that it's hard to bring my bike for the whole week only to get like a 30-mile ride in. It's annoying to keep up with it and move it from town to town to town to town to town every week. So maybe I'll find somebody who's not gonna ride on the layover day and we'll just do a bike swap.
SPEAKER_03:There you go. It's like when you make more money, you spend more when you make more. So it's not like you have I'm sure you won't have as many. But I have seen you ride at at uh Ragbri once. You mu you came you back to one like the the end town. We saw you coming back.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, a lot of times on Ragbry, you know, because I'll be there setting up tents or whatever, and then uh try and ride back halfway and then you know ride in with the the group. Uh they call that swimming upstream. So you do definitely feel like a salmon, you know, going against the grain. And I know they hate that, and you know, don't let the uh ragbri folks hear hear that I did that. But um, but that's a good way to get some miles in if you're uh if you're working.
SPEAKER_03:Well, all right, ragbride 53. We're not going. Yeah, I mean my first year doing ragbri, I'm like, what? And these people write them the wrong way. What I never understood until finally I, you know, five times in, I'm a quick learner. Then I realized they were coming back to the back to the the town to you know close it out.
SPEAKER_02:So um and ragbright's usually better because you know there's not nearly as many cars on the road, you know, it's a lot of the smaller rural towns in Iowa, and you know, they obviously avoid the route just because they know that the ragbri route's gonna be going on there. So um it's a little bit safer to do it there than a lot of other rides for sure.
SPEAKER_03:So in prior years, you have graciously trusted us with the route. Can we can we announce that here that we'll get to do that again? Can we do a route release show with you guys? Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:I think it was very successful last year. We might get Ron to uh come up with our our trivia questions. Love it.
SPEAKER_03:I love it. I love it. Absolutely. We can definitely record and respect for you guys right before Christmas. We'll sign the no complete cause and everything and send our lawyers and document it and send it back. We won't tell anybody, but actually in prior years, people have, I mean, you know, the last couple years people have said, so you guys knew about it? We're like, yeah, like a week ahead of time. It's like, did you tell anybody? I'm like, who am I gonna tell in Michigan? I mean, hey, guess what? What I'm going, this is the route. Yeah, okay, good enough. So but no, it's uh the only benefit has been hotels. Usually Michael and I go because we fly in, we look at our flights and look at a hotel for us, has been one of the things. But it's exciting, and many times people on the route uh we got to hear things like, oh, Franklin had the trivia, and then he said what distilleries and breweries were gonna be there. And so then um that's the only reason I knew it is because it was your show, and that kind of made us feel like yes, that worked, you know, for all of us. So it's the small things, right? On the on the show.
SPEAKER_02:So um Ron's got some intimate knowledge of a lot of these towns because we've uh we've driven a lot of the um gone to a lot of the towns and the meetings and whatnot. He'll always be sitting there talking, I I was here and you know, such and such a year doing this thing, and it's like some random town in Georgia. I'm like, Where how in the world have you been to all these small towns already?
SPEAKER_03:I love it. I love it. That's kind of like I was at Ragbury. Michael can tell you if I'm if I'm telling you a lie right now. We were somewhere and on the northern route of Ragbury, and I said, I've been by this house before. I said, I can't believe it. And he goes, No, there's no way you've been by this house. And Ron, I'm sure you can guess right now. We've our friendship is definitely, you know, it's a we definitely think the world of each other, but we love poking each other a little bit. And I said, I'm telling you, I'm like, when I get to camp, I'm pulling up Strava. I have I know that stone sign on that house. I I I know I was there.
SPEAKER_00:Come on. He's pointing at a stone sign in the middle of a yard saying we've been here before. That sounds bogus to me. And we got back, and had we been by there? We had been by there, yes. Had we been on that road and that we've been on that exact road going that exact direction three years before.
SPEAKER_02:Well, you know, Adam, when you get to be Michael's age, memory becomes a little bit of an issue.
SPEAKER_00:Oh wow. Well, Franklin was my favorite guest on the show. Ron, you got a chance here to make up some ground. Finally. That was good. I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_03:Only if he only knew Michael. Gosh.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that's funny. That same thing happens to us all the time. Just you know, I live in Georgia and I've driven, I swear, every road that there is to drive, so all the time we'll be on a family road trip or going somewhere and I'll be, oh yeah, we've had a rest stop there, and oh, this is our route went right back here. And a lot of times I'll be driving and I'll tell the kids to look out the window to look for old brack markers because some of those things will stick around for like 10 years.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You know, if it's a really rural road, you know, that doesn't get a lot of um traffic on it. I mean, we've we've seen markers on there from you know, rides that are from 10 years ago. So it's kind of cool to always just driving around with your family or friends, like, look down there on the road. See if you see a marker like that. They're like, what are you talking about? And I was like, I painted that there. That's where I tagged.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, they don't get the harsh winters, they don't get the snow, they don't get the you know, the ice melting salts and things like that. So, yeah, they could stick around for a while.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, some of them are are there. One of my favorite things about having many friends from Georgia and and a lot of people we've met, you know, throughout the times that we've been there is I've become Facebook friends with them on my personal Facebook page. And when you guys have a snow day, you guys are like celebrate. You're like, Snow day! And I'm like, I I got it outside right now, you can have it every day. But kind of funny, one time I was coming back to Atlanta, ladies and gentlemen, we do regret that all flights are delayed. There's an inch of snow on the ground. I'm like, an inch of snow? I'm like, I'm gonna land in Detroit, and there's 12 inches of snow. But you guys don't obviously have the same infrastructure. I get it, but um very, very, very interesting. But uh well, Ron, I uh on behalf of Michael and I personally want to welcome you to your to your new uh gig, not not 100% new, but new to us, of course. Uh so anything that the Road Adventures of Cycling Measure, uh Men of Leisure can help you share. If you're trying to get a word out or you're trying to get some information out, don't hesitate. We'll be glad to talk about it on the show. We want to open that olive branch, of course.
SPEAKER_01:So absolutely. I appreciate it. You guys have a have far reach and a and a good reader uh listenership, um, and always an entertaining show. So I think we're we're blessed to be part of it and look forward to the coming days when we can get this uh get this wonderful route and news of it out to the world and um go from there.
SPEAKER_00:It'll be fun. We will be mentioning this on not only our regular podcast, but we'll probably throw out a couple of other podcasts or quick reels and things like that just to remind people how to do it and when the uh the time frame is. I'm gonna we haven't really discussed a time frame. I'm gonna assume it needs to be done by, you know, I don't know, 10 o'clock on the 31st of December. But we'll we'll work that exact date out. But we'll be reminding everybody to get out there and put your put your votes in. I mean, it's number one, it's gonna be, well, probably in Georgia. Occasionally we've left, but we've never stayed outside of Georgia that I'm aware of. So uh pick some towns right in a row and uh and go with it.
SPEAKER_02:Twice first brag. We started in Ufala, Alabama. So that's not a hint, but there are some times where we've been outside the state. That would be cool.
SPEAKER_00:Or there were times that we've been outside the state too on rides that we've been with you, but we you know, we went out briefly and we came back in. We never spent the evening outside of the state. So that's true.
SPEAKER_02:I've heard you love those South Carolina roads, and I listened to that podcast and I just thought, man, they're bad roads, but they're not that bad. But you guys really hated the roads.
SPEAKER_00:You know, going 60 in a you know, a Ford pickup truck. Yeah, roads don't really seem that bad, do they?
SPEAKER_02:You know, the hills aren't the the hills are pretty flat at that point, too.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I bet they are.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, your roads are a hundred thousand times better than Michigan, so I have to say that uh that's I didn't even know that I was in South Carolina last year until I saw the sign that said, Well, come to Georgia.
SPEAKER_00:I was like, I didn't know I left.
SPEAKER_03:When did I leave? I didn't even know I left. Um, but that was a great ride last year. I really enjoyed that except for that one hill where I had to push my bike.
SPEAKER_02:It's you know, it's those challenges though that you know make sure you're pushing yourself enough that it's it's not too easy.
SPEAKER_00:Says the guy driving in the pickup truck.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, hey, that guy helped me. He he went up to the top of the hill, brought me an icy, and then got got uh Aztec, Chris from Aztec to pull over and help me out as I was going clunk clank clank clank clank clank clank. So it all works out. So well, okay, contest, guess the route. As soon as I release this, uh we'll the website will be open. We'll we'll spread it on social. We'll put the links to Franklin and Ron. Uh they can share to their prospective places. Uh, we look forward to the guesses. 10 points for the correct town and night, five points for the correct town, 20 points for the correct town if it's the layover, and 10 points if you can prove that you follow the road adventures of cycling men of leisure somewhere, somehow, but it's gotta be a screenshot and show us so now.
SPEAKER_02:Do those points stack? If I follow you on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, and Facebook, can I stack those points?
SPEAKER_00:I I think you should try, but I'm gonna tell you they don't.
SPEAKER_02:But go ahead and and do that. Okay. We should have told them it stacks, and then after how to correct it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, did we say it stacks? I'm sorry. No, unfortunately, we're we're not gonna stack it. You just get a straight. But if you want to follow us on multiple platforms, that would be fantastic.
SPEAKER_03:We we started this thing, and after this, we can end this. We started it with the podcast with no intentions of ever doing the YouTube. And then we can't believe the growth that we've had on YouTube recently. It's it's really changed. So I don't know if people like to watch our facial expressions or laugh at each other or whatever. And then then we'll have some shows that the the the viewership on YouTube uh is nowhere near what the listenership is. So it's kind of funny, it goes back and forth. We think there's a value add, and we've decided to keep both platforms. So whether you like to listen to us or watch us, you can see Michael's uh bourbon of choice. I saw you had one tonight, sir. I did.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, I'm leisuring. Yeah. Soon to be unemployed and leisuring, so you know, hey, you know, but uh if you're hiring, Michael's looking.
SPEAKER_03:That's right. Franklin, you don't need a business architect.
SPEAKER_00:That darn ride director job already's gone. Shucks. Yeah, beat you too.
SPEAKER_03:But but maybe he needs a business architect. Nobody knows what that is. I couldn't help him.
SPEAKER_00:Sorry.
SPEAKER_02:You know, we were talking about this. Ron was like, what what is Michael doing? I was like, you know, I might have told you at one point, but not anymore. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:He's uh he's gonna be driving a bus in the county. He's gonna have to learn what the yellow standee line is, though, because if he doesn't figure that out, it ain't gonna work, buddy.
SPEAKER_00:So it's just a fake thing you people say. But anyway.
SPEAKER_03:Well, we're gonna wish you luck, buddy. Um, appreciate you being in good spirits. Not a good time of the year. Not ever, and there's never a good time, but obviously this is the worst time of the year. So we'll we'll think the best for you. If you are hiring a business architect, reach out to us on our socials. Michael would be so thankful. So um, well, Ron, thank you so much for your time this evening. We will get some guesses going. We will once we if we see like a uh a conglomerate of of cities or whatever, we'll run up by you guys and and we'll put out a show and try to see where people are trending to, which wouldn't where they think it may be going. After you released the logo, I did see all kinds of questions and your correction. Just to be clear, after they saw the logo, many people said, Are we going gravel? Are we doing mountain biking? And I saw that Brad kept saying, This is a road ride, this is a road ride. So I I I did see that there were some guesses there, so I don't want to steal anyone's guesses there. Um, hopefully they can uh transpose those guesses for the official contest.
SPEAKER_00:But get get your guesses in early because it would be fun for us to kind of keep track as we go. Don't everybody wait till the end because you know, okay.
SPEAKER_02:Well, we'll get some trivia ready for you guys for the uh route release, too.
SPEAKER_03:That sounds good. Well, appreciate both of you guys being here. Uh we will uh we'll get this out, and as always, it's a great day for a bike. Thank you guys. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you, appreciate it.
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